Friday, June 28, 2019

Clayton Diving Club - July meeting

The next Clayton Diving Club meeting is scheduled for Thursday July 11 5:30-6:45 pm at the Clayton Hawn Library, 220 John St, Clayton.


Saturday, June 22, 2019

Clayton Diving Club - NOAA marine sanctuary for Lake Ontario

A special meeting was held by the Clayton Diving Club on Thursday, June 20 at the Cape Vincent Library to discuss  NOAA’s proposed national marine sanctuary in Lake Ontario.  In attendance were Dennis and Kathi McCarthy, Diane Hammond, Ken & Carol Kozin, Dick Bleier, Ken Knapp, Bruce Rippeteau, John Krake and Joe Dudiak.


A number of the members attended a special meeting with NOAA representatives in order to better understand the proposal and to provide valuable input to their draft.  There was much discussion from those attending members who provided unique insight into the existing proposed area as well as the potential to an expanded area to include the 1000 Island region.  Some of the significant benefits discussed were the following:


  • Continue to develop and expand the shipwreck buoy program
  • Provide for the maintenance and support of the club’s existing shipwreck buoys
  • Expand on the effort to protect and monitor the shipwrecks
  • Possible clean-up of oil contamination from existing wrecks (i.e., America, Jodery)


Some of the challenges mentioned would be the following:


  • Unique to New York, land owner boundaries that expand beyond high water mark into the river
  • Resolving existing responsibilities with various state agencies (i.e., DEC, Office of General Services, NYS Parks & Recreation, etc)


After much discussion, it was unanimously agreed that the Clayton Diving Club should provide a formal comment to the NOAA proposal.  Dennis McCarthy agreed to draft the comment.   All members of the club are urged to review the proposal and provide relevant feedback to NOAA.   The proposal can be viewed at and any feedback can be submitted to  (use docket number NOAA-NOS-2019-0032) 


Saturday, June 15, 2019

Fwd: Clayton Diving Club - meeting notice

Clayton Diving Club is having a special meeting on Thursday June 20, 2019 at 6-8 pm to review the NOAA public meeting on the proposed Lake Ontario marine sanctuary.

The meeting will be held at the Community Room of the Cape Vincent Library at 157 Real St.

The goal of the meeting will be to produce a club public comment to be posted on the Federal eRulemaking Portal and to encourage individual members to comment also.


Wednesday, June 5, 2019

Frequently Asked Questions

We have been provided a link to a NOAA site that provides some background answers:

  • What is the history of the process for designating a sanctuary in Wisconsin, and how has NOAA engaged the state and public?
  • What is happening now and whats are the next steps in the designation process?
  • If designated, how would NOAA engage the state and the public in sanctuary management?
  • Why is the Ordinary High Water (OHWM) mark being considered as the sanctuary's landward boundary?
  • Would sanctuary designation impact riparian rights and state sovereignty?
  • Will the designation impact commercial shipping activities?
  • Will the sanctuary impact commercial or recreational fishing?
  • What are the anticipated costs associated with the sanctuary?

Sunday, June 2, 2019

Information that has been forwarded to the Clayton Dive Club in regards to the proposed national marine sanctuary in Lake Ontario

ref "the NOAA proposed national marine sanctuary in Lake Ontario.  The proposal would include the Village of Cape Vincent and all waters from there to the town of lime. "

Ref: concerns as stated in the Wisconsin  NOAA proposed preserve of "The addition of a new level of government for citizens to petition for permits and certifications for normal use of Lake Michigan is too much of a trade off for the negligible benefit to protecting shipwrecks,"
Below are some links to the public meetings that were held about the Wisconsin Marine Sanctuary that is similar to the one proposed for Lake Ontario that includes the village of Cape Vincent.

The sanctuary's boundary is the high water mark. This appears to have issues with existing  riparian rights of land owners and underwater property.

These are not hi-quality but they show some of the issues.    The best one to view is Part # 13:   

NOAA will hold a public meeting as follows:
Watertown, New York (Jefferson County)
Date: June 13, 2019
Location: Jefferson Community College
Address: 1220 Coffeen Street, Jules Center, Room 6-002, Watertown, NY 13601
Time: 6:30-8:00 p.m.

This is from an email with links the Wisconsin Marine Sanctuary Forum –  concerned residents meeting –  Q & A
NOAA Facts Forum -

Part # 13:                Property issues discussion