Tuesday, July 16, 2019

Re: Clayton Diving Club - July mtg minutes

The following is a link to the Thousand Islands Life magazine article on the NOAA proposed Sanctuary.

Many thanks to Bob Sherwood/All About Scuba,  Warren Lo and Gerry Wall for their exceptional photos.


More comments on the proposed Lake Ontario Marine Sanctuary

From Jim Kennard

Minimal Benefits for a Federally Funded Lake Ontario NOAA Marine Sanctuary
There are areas of the country where a NOAA marine sanctuary has provided a benefit via increased recreational activities and tourism due to unique opportunities that exist in those areas, but these do not apply to the proposed Lake Ontario Marine Sanctuary.
For the past 45 years our shipwreck discovery team has located 15 of the 21 shipwrecks described in the proposed Lake Ontario Marine Sanctuary. We have thoroughly researched the 47 potential submerged resources and found that over 50% were incorrectly reported. In May 2019 the National Museum of the Great Lakes published my book Shipwrecks of Lake Ontario – A Journey of Discovery which details the discoveries along with the historical research and imagery of all 21 shipwrecks listed in the proposed area. Listed below are my reasons why I believe there are minimal benefits for federally funding the proposed Lake Ontario NOAA Marine Sanctuary based on my knowledge of the shipwrecks that exist in the proposed area and the general public interest that I have observed,
  • Minimal recreational diving opportunities
  • No shipwreck observation opportunities by the public
  • Potential submerged resources have been grossly overstated
  • Federal and State laws already protect shipwrecks in New York State waters
  • Monitoring shipwrecks without being able to stop the buildup of quagga muscles – A waste of funding
  • Research, documentation, and imagery is published in Shipwrecks of Lake Ontario
  • HMS Ontario is a war grave, and is not located in Lake Ontario eastern basin – do not include
  • Several local museums currently have shipwreck displays for their area
  • A centralized shipwreck facility could pull public interest away from visits to other towns
  • General public interest today in shipwreck presentations is declining
  • Recommendation: Individual townships promote the history of ships wrecked off their shores
Minimal recreation diving opportunities
There are only 6 recreational diving (limit of 130 feet) opportunities off the southern shore of Lake Ontario. Among those the only real shipwreck of historic interest is the schooner St. Peter off Pultneyville. There is very little remaining of the steamer David Mills except ribs and a boiler near Oswego on Ford Shoals. Two of the other wrecks, a house boat and tugboat, are totally smashed up. The tug Cormorant and overturned USCG cable barge are post 1950’s wrecks. The remaining 15 shipwrecks in the proposed marine sanctuary, which our team discovered, are way beyond the recreational diving limits. The recreational diveable wrecks that are that exist in the northern area of the proposed preserve are far from land and not economically worthwhile for dive boat charters operating in the St. Lawrence River.

Sunday, July 14, 2019

Clayton Diving Club - July mtg minutes

The meeting was opened by club president Dennis McCarthy at 5:30 pm on July 11.  In attendance were Joe Dudiak, Ken Kozin, Carol Kozin, Kathi McCarthy, Dennis McCarthy, Diane Hammond, John Krake and Dick Bleier. 
-      Treasurer report:  
Ken Kozin reported that the current balance for the club is at $606.21, which includes $231.15 for the mooring fund. 

  • Secretary report:
Joe Dudiak reported that the minutes from the May meeting were sent to all active members via email and was posted on the club website.  The minutes were then accepted.  Joe also reported that Edwin Hammond sent a donation of $100 for the mooring fund in honor of his brother Bill Hammond.  A thank-you note from the club was sent to Edwin.   The club also received a thank-you note from the Alexandria Bay Chamber of Commerce for the club’s participation in their clean-up day.  Six divers and two deck hands were there to assist in the clean-up around the village dock. 

  • Old Business
Dennis McCarthy reported that he sent a letter to NOAA expressing the club’s views of the proposal for a National Marine Sanctuary on Lake Ontario.  Dennis received input from various members and incorporated the changes to his draft.  The letter can be viewed at

  • Dennis also reported that he sent a more generic version of the letter to the 1000 Island Life Magazine.  
  • Ken Kozin reported that the mooring buoy for the shipwreck Keystorm has not yet been placed for this dive season.  Ken, Joe Dudiak, and Skip Couch then scheduled to place the buoy on Tuesday, July 16 at 9:00. 
  • New Business
  • A club dive to create a 3D video of the Maggie L or the Grandview is scheduled for July 29 at 8:00 AM.  Dennis & Kathi McCarthy will brief the divers on the technique to take the video prior to the dive.  Any diver who would like to participate should contact Ken Kozin at 315-286-4352.
  • TI Museum Events:
History at Noon  -Wednesday, July 24 – History at Noon with Dennis McCarthy. Dennis will present a program on the Mysteries of the North Bay Carleton Island shipwreck.
Sunset History Boat Cruise – Wednesday, July 24 – Carleton Island Tour – Boat will head towards Cape Vincent to tour around historic Carleton Island, site of Fort Haldimand, a Revolutionary War fort. Dennis McCarthy will be on the cruise to relate the history of the island, the people and events that took place there, including Edward Wyckoff’s construction of a large villa, the ruins of which still stand. Tickets are $32 per person. Tour leaves the dock at 5:00. Reservations are required and space is limited.
<![if !supportLists]>o    <![endif]> 
  • The meeting was adjourned at 6:35 by president Dennis McCarthy.  

Reminder:  The membership dues for the 2019 dive season is now due.  A release form needs to be submitted each year.  The form and mailing address can be found on the website at https://claytondivingclub.blogspot.com/p/join-us.html

Tuesday, July 9, 2019