Thursday, January 16, 2025

Clayton Diving Club - November 2024 meeting minutes

The meeting was opened by club president Dennis McCarthy  at 5:10 PM on November 21, 2024.  In attendance were Kathi McCarthy, Dennis McCarthy, Joe Dudiak, John Krake,  Skip Couch, Michael Rainville, Matt McCullouch and Charlie Stage.  

 

  -   The October meeting minutes were distributed via email, read at the meeting and were then approved by members with the noted update from Dennis McCarthy.       

                       

-      Treasurer report:  

Ken Kozin was not present but reported a club balance of $1610.81.  That includes $841.66 in the general club fund and $769.15 in the mooring fund.

 

Old Business

 

  • Divers Access Dock – Dennis scheduled a meeting and Skip Couch  presented a proposal to place the divers access dock at the East end of the Clayton  Village dock (where it was located in the past) to Mayor Hyde and Terry.  Both the Mayor and Terry agreed the Village of Clayton is responsible for the dock and have targeted May 2025 for all repairs to be completed and placed in the water.  The Village reviewed the permit and found it is now up to date.  .Charlie still has the parking meter for contributions and plans to place it at the dock for next season.  The village will contact CDC for any assistance needed during the placement of the dock.       

 

  • Clean-up dive – Dennis mentioned the plan to hold a clean-up dive to Mayor Hyde and she was quite enthusiastic. The Mayor will need details of what the village should provide about 2 months in advance for proper scheduling.  It was suggested that possibly the Village Fire Boat could be there for diver access from the water.  More details to be discussed at a future meeting in order to fully schedule the June 7 tentative date. 

 

  • Christmas Parade Float – The idea for the club float as an underwater aquarium is taking shape.  Carol requested that anyone who has a bubble machine to please contact her at tide@gisco.com.  The members voted to allocated $50 for cost of candy for the parade.  The date for building the float is set for December 5 at 5 PM at Ken and Carol's house at 834 Rees St.  Anyone planning to participate should RSVP Carol at tide@gisco.com and should bring a plate to pass.  Anyone planning to participate in the parade should be at their house on December 7 at 4 PM.  All are welcome since we will need 'divers' to march with the float.

 

 

  • Thousand Island Museum –  Members completed the decorations for the CDC entry at the museum's 'Festival of Trees'.   Kathi showed a picture of the finished product and urged club members to see it and cast a vote for our tree.  Kathy also mentioned there will be a Christmas Party held at the museum on December 19 sponsored by the Clayton Chamber of Commerce.  All are invited to attend.  There will be a $10 fee which will include food and drinks.

 

  • Annual Christmas Club Dinner – John Krake reported that the annual club dinner will be held on December 12 at the Island Bay Pier House.  Please contact John (jskfrogboy@aol.com) with your RSVP by December 5 if you plan to attend so he can get the restaurant a final count for dinner.  All members and family are welcomed to attend.  Happy hour starts at 6:00 with dinner at 7:00. 

 

 

  • Ships Wheel of the AE Vickery -  There is interest from Clayton Mayor Nancy Hyde to refurbish and display the wheel in Clayton.   Dennis will pursue a meeting with Mayor Hyde and personnel from the  ABM to determine if this project is  feasible.  Joe Dudiak reported that another grant program will become available in August of 2025 by the New York State Parks.

 

Cannon from the Iroquois – Michel Rainville asked about the status of retrieving the cannon for display.   Dennis reported that its resides at a friend's home near Cortland  but  that no additional progress has been made.  Dennis  will continue to make more inquiries in the future.  

 

  • New Business
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  • Nominations of club officers are complete  and voting will be sent to members with results announced  at the December 12 Christmas Party. 

 

  • Joe reported that a card was sent to Carol & Ken Kozin from the CDC expressing sympathy for the loss of Carols' mother.
  • Joe reported that John Krake, Matt McCullouch and Joe Dudiak  removed the buoy from the Keystorm for the season.  
  • A thank-you card was sent to Hunt's Dive Shop for use of their boat for that effort.  All club sponsored shipwreck buoys have now  been removed for the season.  
  • Skip reported that Diver's Talk will resume in December.  It will be every Wednesday night at 7PM.  The December agenda will be movies of local shipwrecks.  
  • John Cannaday from New York Sea Grant sent a note asking if the CDC would be interested in setting up an educational booth at the Lake Ontario Waterfront Festival on May 17, 2025.  More discussion regarding this request will be held in future meeting. 


The next club meeting is scheduled for January 16 at 5:00 PM at the Clayton village municipal building  The  meeting was then adjourned by Dennis at 6:20 PM.  

Saturday, October 23, 2021

NOAA opens Pandora's box.



The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) draft environmental impact statement (DEIS) for Proposed Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary | Office National Marine Sanctuaries (noaa.gov)    has gotten the attention of several important agencies and organizations.  

“Due to the unique geography of the region, particularly in the St. Lawrence River, some diveable shipwreck sites are located on the bottom directly underneath active shipping lanes.”  Another passage from the DEIS about recreational diving in shipping channels appears on page 22. This passage reads, “To facilitate sustainable recreational access to shipwrecks, NOAA would develop a mooring program to install and maintain access at popular dive sites. These moorings would include buoys and other types of access infrastructure for sites where buoy placement is not advisable, such as in shipping channels.”

Essentially "Encouraging and facilitating recreational diving (and the necessary accompanying dive boats) in shipping lanes and other busy shipping areas along the St. Lawrence River" will expose diving  under the Seaway to a review of safety and economic impact!

Post your comments on the Clayton Divers Facebook Page!!!!!

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All 65 on-line Proposed LONMS comments can be found at:    https://www.regulations.gov/document/NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0001/comment

The DEIS identified either no sanctuary or two location options:

(1) Alternative 1 (Eastern Lake Ontario and Thousand Islands)
(2) Alternative 2 (Eastern Lake Ontario)

1) DOT on NOAA Marine Sanctuary in Lake Ontario:      NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0068_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

"The addition of a marine sanctuary in a busy international shipping channel such as the St. Lawrence River would add additional challenges to the safe and efficient oversight of navigation by multiple U.S. and Canadian entities. It has the potential make the Seaway a less reliable transportation route and could create future supply chain disruptions due to increased vessel incidents and delays."

2) US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE)                       NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0020_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

Recommend changing as follows (additions in ALL CAPS):
To ensure compatible use with commercial shipping and other activities, NOAA would exclude the ports and harbors ofOswego, Pultneyville, Little Sodus, Great Sodus, OGDENSBURG, MORRISTOWN, CAPE VINCENT, SACKETS HARBOR, and Port Ontario.
NOAA would also exclude the federal navigation channels AND approaches, FEDERAL NAVIGATION STRUCTUES, ON-GOING NAVIGATIONIMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND STUDIES, designated open water dredge disposal areas, and federal anchorage areas from the proposed sanctuary
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3) American Pilots' Association:                                          NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0060_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

"We disagree with NOAA's conclusion that Alternatives 1 and 2 will have no impact on commercial shipping. First, we urge NOAA to exclude the St. Lawrence River from the sanctuary boundaries. U.S. portions of the river are part of the St. Lawrence Seaway"

4) Chamber of Marine Commerce:                                    NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0056_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

"Given the binational importance of this commercial waterway, the increased risk to safety and the likelihood of other unintended consequences, we do not support Alternative 1."

5) Lake Carriers' Association                                              NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0040_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

"Alternative 1 would have significant negative impacts to shipping as the section of the St. Lawrence River under consideration is a major through fare for large commercial vessels that depend on a clear and open navigation channel to safely move cargoes. The St. Lawrence River is already a constrained waterway with strong currents and adding further impediments to maritime navigation is a recipe for disaster."

6) American Great Lakes Ports Association:                      NOAA-NOS-2021-0050-0033_attachment_1.pdf - Google Drive

"We disagree with NOAA's conclusion that Alternatives 1 and 2 will have no impact on commercial shipping. First, we urge NOAA to exclude the St. Lawrence River from the sanctuary boundaries. U.S. portions of the river are part of the St. Lawrence Seaway"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thursday, June 10, 2021

RE: Clayton Diving Club

I need more notice to be able to go and help so I cannot make it this time

 

From: Joe Dudiak [mailto:jdudiak@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:21 AM
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Subject: Clayton Diving Club

 

Ken Kozin completed repairs of the club shipwreck buoys and reinforced the light cages in an effort to avoid future damage of those cages.  The buoys are now all in place for the 2021 dive season.  This includes the Maggie L, the Natural Site at Eagle Wing, the A. E. Vickery and the Keystorm.

 

Alex Bay is doing another village cleanup this Saturday, June 12. They are asking if any divers would like to help out to meet at the village dock at 8 AM this Saturday.


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Wednesday, June 9, 2021

Clayton Diving Club

Ken Kozin completed repairs of the club shipwreck buoys and reinforced the light cages in an effort to avoid future damage of those cages.  The buoys are now all in place for the 2021 dive season.  This includes the Maggie L, the Natural Site at Eagle Wing, the A. E. Vickery and the Keystorm.

 

Alex Bay is doing another village cleanup this Saturday, June 12. They are asking if any divers would like to help out to meet at the village dock at 8 AM this Saturday.

Monday, April 19, 2021

Re: Clayton Dive Club - Cape Vincent dive

Dear Fellow Clayton Dive Club-ers,

        We are late arriving at the Cape from Lincoln NE this year (altho hopefully by May), so will not be able to come over and snorkel with you all on the St Louis on 24 April.

        Joe,  I am sending this below image that CV's Bill Gould took (and gave to me a copy in 2017 to share as I saw fit, but we all need to be sure to credit Bill) of the St Louis at our CV East End Park.

        Also, there is a new Village changing station and bathroom immediately adjacent to the entry area, although it may not be quite yet open.  Further, Dennis and Kathi have a LOT of St L documentation for the curious members.

                                            --Bruce (still in Lincoln)

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On Monday, April 19, 2021, 05:57:17 AM CDT, Joe Dudiak <jdudiak@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
In the March meeting minutes it was mentioned that a club dive to begin the 2021 dive season was scheduled for April 24 on the wreck the St. Louis in Cape Vincent.   Due to other commitments, the club officers will not be attending.  Members are still welcome to make the dive as an informal event.  It would be a good opportunity to check out your equipment to start the dive season.